Paper Bell Target Rifle Competition

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Post by zunmik » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:07 pm

pmh:2174 wrote:I think I might be able to get 6 faces per target sheet, and a sighter, so that would mean 2 x target sheets per entry.

This would mean excluding some of the outer rings, just would need to agree the scoring.

I would include score fractions so that .22 rifles could be used, which would handicap them in a way, as they are less likely to get a clean hit on the centre.

My suggested scoring would be:-

5.2 - Clean hit on centre (no line breaks)
5.0 - Centre hit (line break)
4.0 - Within first outer ring
3.0 - Within second outer ring

Upward scoring.

Any thoughts?

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I am doubtfull about 5 ring scoring & 6 yds with a rifle allowing line breaks to score 5 is out side bell target norm's & at 6 yds most shots would be clustered here so it might be diffacult to separate a winner, M.
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Post by pmh » Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:06 pm

Come on chaps, let's hear your thoughts on scoring.

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Post by Plinkit » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:22 pm

zunmik:2175 wrote: I am doubtfull about 5 ring scoring & 6 yds with a rifle allowing line breaks to score 5 is out side bell target norm's & at 6 yds most shots would be clustered here so it might be diffacult to separate a winner, M.
I was under the impression M that P's target was going to be a one shot per target affair with 6 targets per sheet.

As regards the scoring it seems ok to me but i'm no expert. However are you suggesting that there will only be 2 outer scoring rings with your proposed target?
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Post by zunmik » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:45 pm

Plinkit:2201 wrote:
zunmik:2175 wrote: I am doubtfull about 5 ring scoring & 6 yds with a rifle allowing line breaks to score 5 is out side bell target norm's & at 6 yds most shots would be clustered here so it might be diffacult to separate a winner, M.
I was under the impression M that P's target was going to be a one shot per target affair with 6 targets per sheet.

As regards the scoring it seems ok to me but i'm no expert. However are you suggesting that there will only be 2 outer scoring rings with your proposed target?
I'm no longer sure myself i originally suggested online bell target it seems to have evolved to something like a ubc fun shoot so i will withdraw from this comp idea, the pistol shoot appears to have sadly stopped i still can't find round 3 results?. If a rifle shoot does happen people must make it what suits the majority, M.
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Post by Tank » Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:20 pm

zunmik:2203 wrote: I'm no longer sure myself i originally suggested online bell target it seems to have evolved to something like a ubc fun shoot so i will withdraw from this comp idea, the pistol shoot appears to have sadly stopped i still can't find round 3 results?. If a rifle shoot does happen people must make it what suits the majority, M.
No, I do not believe that to be the case at all. What Phil proposed, and I agree, was to print six targets to a sheet of A4 paper so there is no doubt about the scores - a point I believe you made earlier.
I personally do not do "fun shoots". Having said that, I try not to take myself too seriously either.
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Post by pmh » Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:10 pm

Round 3 shots now posted.

This will be far from a "fun" shoot type of competition.

Your original suggestion was a good one, and I thought I had translated it into a concept.

Nothing is cast in stone yet, so no need to withdraw.

I was hoping to put 6 x faces onto one sheet, + a sighed target.

This will make scoring easier as there will only be 1 bit per target face.

Two sheets will be shot, giving the common 2 x 6 shot rounds, plus 1 slighter per set of 6.

In order to get 6 faces on one sheet I will need to remove an outer ring, or two, but these are rarely hit, so shouldn't cause too many problems.

We could keep all rings, and shoot a total of 4 x sheets in order to get one shot per face. It's really up to members.

I don't purpose to proceed until everybody is happy with the rules, target layout, etc.

So, all comments/ideas are welcome.

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Post by beeker » Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:28 pm

Never having participated in "bell target" contests or knowing anything about the format, could one of you chaps enlighten me. Are all shots to be taken in a standing position ? :?: Does anyone ever shoot these with an open sight pistol ? Or is it deemed to be too difficult.

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Post by pmh » Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:26 pm

These are free standing competitions over 6 yards,

The basic set up is the same country wide, but rules can change from district to district regarding number of shots, pellet type, sight type, etc.

A lot shoot open sights only, though non magnifying sights, such sure dot, are allowed in some comps.

Some comps also insist on a standard pellet.

Bell target pistol has been mentioned on many occasions, but I haven't personally had a go.

Shooting against proper bell targets, it is easier with .177, but for this comp it shouldn't matter much, other than to reduce the chance of getting a perfect centre for a maximum score.

I'll try and put all the above chat into a set of rules, which should make it a lot simpler.

Zunmik's original idea was a very good one, and I'll try and stick as closely to this as possible.

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Post by pmh » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:28 pm

Had a chance to play with the target layout today, and came up with this:-

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It's one shot per target face, with 1 sighter.

Shot over 2 target pages, this should give 12 shots plus 2 sighters, and is inline with the original suggestion.

All that is neede is to agree the scoring for the bell (bull).

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Post by Tank » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:21 pm

Scoring from the bull should be down. I don't see why we need to vary a working formula?
We do need to have the 10 and 10.1 scores though I think.
As I have now two Bell Target rifles I really find myself needing to justify them!
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