Webley Alecto Mk 1, Mk2, Mk3..........

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Webley Alecto Mk 1, Mk2, Mk3..........

Post by zooma » Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:12 pm

Not a classic air pistol yet - but as a "born again" Webley air pistol collector this one passed me by ( just like the Nemesis did too) but I understand that it has already had three different variants.

Can anybody advise what the differences are between the Mk1 Alecto, the Mk2 Alecto and the Mk3 Alecto ?

Finally - is the Mk 3 Alecto the current variant or is there a Mk4 ?

I have just acquired an Alecto with the serial number 00106 - would I be correct to assume with this low number that I have a Mk1 Alecto?
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Re: Webley Alecto Mk 1, Mk2, Mk3..........

Post by zunmik » Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:19 pm

Don't know all the variants, but early ones people had problems mounting a red dot on the top rail it needed grooves for the mounting screws which were only available in later variants, also I believe!! the latest variant is threaded for a silencer earlier ones are not, M.
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Re: Webley Alecto Mk 1, Mk2, Mk3..........

Post by zooma » Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:34 pm

Did all Allecto's have the extra long trigger travel?

I have no handbook but it would be nice to find a way to adjust the trigger weight.

With such a long travel and no real let-off point before the trigger goes off it is hard to know when the pistol is going to fire.

It would be nice to have a shorter first travel prior to the actual fire point and then a slightly higher weight so it is possible to feel it and to have more control over exactly when it trips.
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Re: Webley Alecto Mk 1, Mk2, Mk3..........

Post by zunmik » Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:44 pm

zooma wrote:Did all Allecto's have the extra long trigger travel?

I have no handbook but it would be nice to find a way to adjust the trigger weight.

With such a long travel and no real let-off point before the trigger goes off it is hard to know when the pistol is going to fire.

It would be nice to have a shorter first travel prior to the actual fire point and then a slightly higher weight so it is possible to feel it and to have more control over exactly when it trips.
The trigger is fully adjustable for travel & weight, but sorry I can't remember the details you should be able to get a manual off the wobbly website ok, my pistol was a mk1 link to picky if it helps, M.

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Post by zunmik » Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:49 pm

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Post by zooma » Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:50 am

Thanks that was very helpful - I have shortened the trigger travel and it feels a lot better now.

I have not found out how to adjust the weight yet but I will look again tomorrow.
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Re: Webley Alecto Mk 1, Mk2, Mk3..........

Post by Leonardj » Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:50 am

Just taking a wild guess here, but assuming that the "Mk x" designation was based on engineering changes:

Mk I - first guns sold with the plain alloy valve unit.

Mk II - the later guns with the chrome plated valve unit.

Mk III - the extended barrel version.

Make sense?

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Post by peteswright » Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:01 am

zooma wrote:Thanks that was very helpful - I have shortened the trigger travel and it feels a lot better now.

I have not found out how to adjust the weight yet but I will look again tomorrow.
The hole in the bottom of the grip alters weight. you may have trouble feeling for the allen screw as it is down in there quite away. Better to take off the right grip and look what's going on in there for future ref. Turn right for more weight but only small turns till you find what you want. You Must test fire each adjustment, of anything, to make sure you don't get a hair trigger or the gun can fire when closing loaded over arm. Be careful! ATB. Pete.
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Re: Webley Alecto Mk 1, Mk2, Mk3..........

Post by zooma » Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:06 am

peteswright wrote:
zooma wrote:Thanks that was very helpful - I have shortened the trigger travel and it feels a lot better now.

I have not found out how to adjust the weight yet but I will look again tomorrow.
The hole in the bottom of the grip alters weight. you may have trouble feeling for the allen screw as it is down in there quite away. Better to take off the right grip and look what's going on in there for future ref. Turn right for more weight but only small turns till you find what you want. You Must test fire each adjustment, of anything, to make sure you don't get a hair trigger or the gun can fire when closing loaded over arm. Be careful! ATB. Pete.

This is the bit I am stuck with because I did not see a hole in my Alecto grip base. I have taken the grip off and not seen anything inside either. :think:

My pistol is number 106 - maybe it is an early one that did not have this feature?........but it was also very late so I will check it again to be certain :doh:

...........OK I have slept now and taken another look and there is a very small hole in the base of the grip that seems to go inside at a fairly steep angle so this must be the one! This same angle would have had me looking in the wrong place inside so I should be able to tweak the trigger weight as well.

Thanks for you help!
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Alecto Handbook for a Mk 1 ?

Post by zooma » Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:03 am

Does anybody have an Alecto handbook they would like to sell me please?

I can see it online thanks to the info given here - but it would be nice to have an original to keep inside the box if I can find one .

I think my Alecto must be a very early one as the number is 000106 and so I am guessing it must be a Mk 1 and if the handbook has changed as the Alecto has been "improved" during its production life then it would be an early one that would be the best.
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Re: Webley Alecto Mk 1, Mk2, Mk3..........

Post by zunmik » Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:03 am

Until you get your manual here's another link with maintaining your pistol info, glad you've finally got a Webley with a decent trigger shame about the sci-fi over the top macho appearance, I enjoyed shooting mine, but the appearance put me off it, M. :)

http://www.webley.co.uk/Images/webleyal ... ctions.pdf
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Re: Webley Alecto Mk 1, Mk2, Mk3..........

Post by zooma » Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:32 pm

zunmik wrote:Until you get your manual here's another link with maintaining your pistol info, glad you've finally got a Webley with a decent trigger shame about the sci-fi over the top macho appearance, I enjoyed shooting mine, but the appearance put me off it, M. :)

http://www.webley.co.uk/Images/webleyal ... ctions.pdf
Thanks for the info.

I thought you would be pleased - but it is a weird looking lump of plastic - and as of yet I have not got the trigger to work the way I would like it to - but I do agree that it has potential and as Phil remarked at the club last week if you collect or have any strong interest in Webley air pistols then you should not ignore those that may not be your first choice !

Having said that I have become interested in the Alecto and I am still trying to find out for sure what the difference is between the Mk1, Mk2 and Mk3 and how to tell them apart from each other.

At the moment all I know is that the barrel shroud probably had 3 variants - the only changes being related to the scope mount accommodation and that the Mk 3 also had a screw threaded barrel to allow the fitting of a silencer..............and that is just about all I know at this moment !

Any further identification between the various Mk's would be appreciated.

Maybe production records are available as I notice they are all serial numbered ?
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Re: Webley Alecto Mk 1, Mk2, Mk3..........

Post by zunmik » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:27 pm

Mine was a mark one bought when they first came out the picture I put up was so that you could see the serial No not much lower than yours
suggesting you have a mark 1, atb, M. :)
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Re: Webley Alecto Mk 1, Mk2, Mk3..........

Post by zooma » Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:55 am

Leonardj wrote:Just taking a wild guess here, but assuming that the "Mk x" designation was based on engineering changes:

Mk I - first guns sold with the plain alloy valve unit.

Mk II - the later guns with the chrome plated valve unit.

Mk III - the extended barrel version.

Make sense?
Here is a little more meat to "hang on the bones" and hopefully if we keep gaining information we will eventually have an authentic guide to to be able to identify the three known types with some degree of accuracy.


Mk 1. Silver coloured valve unit with scope rail but no groove on the moulded barrel shroud.

Mk 2. Black coloured valve unit with a cut scope groove on the revised moulded barrel shroud.

Mk 3. Black coloured valve unit with a cut scope groove on the revised moulded barrel shroud and a screw threaded barrel to allow the fitting of the optional silencer.

Left handed grips are available as an option and fit all variants as this area has never been revised in any way.

As more information is gained I will keep this small spec-sheet updated - and I am sure we will also find some small variations within each type as one variant merges into the next and there is the possibility that the production may have overlapped each type a little as well :think:
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Re: Webley Alecto Mk 1, Mk2, Mk3..........

Post by zooma » Sat Nov 09, 2013 10:31 am

Thanks to RedBob we now also know that there is a high powered export version of the Alecto known as the Magnum and this delivers 12 ft/lb.

Bob has also advised us that the Alecto is available in three calibres .177, .20 and .22.

It seems like there is a lot more going on with this plastic pistol than I first thought!
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