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Well, there is thinking and then there is doing.  

In all seriousness though this isn't a comp site so I wouldn't worry too much about it. If I ever do get involved in online comps again though I would prefer them to be verified, either by emailing targets or posting targets to a verifier.

I would support the view that verified shooting may put some people off  on a forum like this  and others. The thing is if somebody cheats and wins they know that they haven't really won. So, I have to support the idea of gentlemanly conduct and trust in these competitions.  

When it comes to the various local and  county association comps the  witnessed cards are a absolute must and yet it doesn't put people off.  We might ask why this is and the answer is because when shooting at a club there is always someone there of a like mind who  can act as a witness.

Jumping back to the original post, I'm a wrinkly and suffer from an arthritic knee, hip, shoulder, neck wrists and hands. plus a plethora of other conditions.   I am unable to take anti-inflammatories and have  make do with pain killers when the pain get bad. As Zunmik pointed out  it is important to maintain mobility.  

Besides air pistol I shoot rim-fire rifle which, after shooting 50 to 100 rounds, caused discomfort in my shoulder.  It seems to be more noticeable just after shooting. to overcome this I have bought a D30 recoil pad for my shoulder and it works well.  Finally when shooting pistol i find that the concentration required  seems to detract from the the discomfort so it's almost therapeutic for me.

Apologies for going prattling on.

Maybe in time as membership grows it may be that there is enough interest to run both verified & non verified comps, i do not doubt peoples honesty, but do like one set standard deciding the score rather than individuals each with their own ideas on what counts as in or out on the ten ring etc, M.

There is no such thing as going on, or prattling on, in here, just sensible comments and a worthy contribution from all.

Some excellent points and comments have been made, and they are food for thought for the future.

Hopefully we'll be able to cater for all needs, as I am sure members will step in to help.

Kind regards,



Phil

Rincewind:1841 wrote:I would support the view that verified shooting may put some people off  on a forum like this and others.

Why?

Rincewind:1841 wrote:The thing is if somebody cheats and wins they know that they haven't really won. So, I have to support the idea of gentlemanly conduct and trust in these competitions.

If someone is willing to cheat then I am sure they do not give a damn about gentlemanly conduct or trust.

Rincewind:1841 wrote:When it comes to the various local and county association comps the witnessed cards are an absolute must and yet it doesn't put people off.  .

But not online comps?? Why is that??

Rincewind:1841 wrote:We might ask why this is and the answer is because when shooting at a club there is always someone there of a like mind who can act as a witness.

Oh yes the 'like mind'. Well if someone is attending clubs and shooting online comps there then I would suggest the 'Like mind' are probably still in the room.

Sorry guys just being devils advocate and would like to hear opinions not just easy get outs for entering online comps.

Sorry to do this to your post Rincewind my apologies.

A bit of lively debate is no bad thing!

Anyway, Ive posted a poll

http://capa.myfreeforum.org/about315.html




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I seem to me that the simplest way to resolve this issue is to run both comps, verified and verified. As Already mentioned by Zunmik.

Back to the shooting "Motivation" as i'm trying to get back to shooting i try where possible to shoot for just a few minutes every day now (retired)
monday onwards i will be unable to shoot for probably 5 days so had a shoot today even though i simply was'nt in the mood, Big mistake both rifle & pistol were a disaster  so i ended up just revamping my target box so i achieved something positive today, M.

Rincewind:1841 wrote:Besides air pistol I shoot rim-fire rifle which, after shooting 50 to 100 rounds, caused discomfort in my shoulder.  It seems to be more noticeable just after shooting. to overcome this I have bought a D30 recoil pad for my shoulder and it works well.  Finally when shooting pistol i find that the concentration required  seems to detract from the the discomfort so it's almost therapeutic for me.

Apologies for going prattling on.

I remember taking my 30-06 to the range right after I bought it 100 rounds saw me black and blue!

I know that a hundred or so rounds through my Beretta 308 results in a blister on the top of my hand right about where the hammer is, because the gaps beteen actually being able to shoot it are so big.

But at least I get to shoot big gun once in a while.

To be honest, if full bore pistol was reintroduced, I am not sure if I'd bother again.

All seems too much hassle, especially with the commonality of CO2 and PCP.

Kind regards,



Phil

pmh:1877 wrote:To be honest, if full bore pistol was reintroduced, I am not sure if I'd bother again.

All seems too much hassle, especially with the commonality of CO2 and PCP.

Kind regards,



Phil

To be honest Phil, I am not sure I would want to buy the quantities of ammunition. I am shooting the equivalent of 150 to 200 rounds a week. That could easily run into big money. It's two quids worth of pellets.

Not mentioned this lately, but ever since my shoulder injury I have continued with physio exercises twice a day & now feel that I can shoot pistol freehand @ a reasonable level, also my rifle shooting continues to improve now that I have gone on to the lighter QB78 target rifle, I should have chosen that one first , other age related issues mean that I will never get full fitness or skill levels back, but enough to make it worth while, and able to mount a challenge in competitions. So if age/and or injury problems come your way do not give up, but adjust to the changing circumstances, Good luck, atb, M.

My left elbow troubles have now moved into my shoulder, which has very limited movement.

I discussed this at my last hospital visit, who recommended self physio.

I have done, almost, daily exercise, and have got some movement back.

I am, however, all struggling with break barrel pistols, and some SSPs.

Hopefully I'll get back to normal one day.

Kind regards,



Phil

Just to add my two penny worth, unless the shooter is isolated in a lighthouse for several months there really is no reason why verification could not be achieved. However if verification is required how would that be policed, how could you be certain the verifier has not been falsified, are we going to require a verification of the verifier. What I am saying is if somebody is so sad an individual that they need to cheat, verification will not stop them so what is the point.

I think "challenge" should be read as a worthy competitor, rather than to challenge scores.

Kind regards,



Phil