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Post by zunmik » Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:42 pm

Continuing with the "izzie" springer i have managed to refit the dioptre sights the original barrel weight forced me to use a red dot as the dioptre's had to be removed, but i've managed to fit the walther barrel weight (not needed on the walther) which allows me to refit the dioptre's, and has amazed me with a dramatic reduction in group size, also i am far more consistent with this new set up. Possibly the very large/heavy barrel weight i used before was a little to heavy, whatever its the biggest improvement i've made since returning to rifle shooting, M.  :)
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Post by pmh » Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:51 pm

Sounds like you are finally getting there.

Whilst the rear diopter sight is an easy fit, I have heard of people finding it difficult yo fit a front sight with removable reticules.

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Post by zunmik » Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:59 pm

pmh:2027 wrote:Sounds like you are finally getting there.

Whilst the rear diopter sight is an easy fit, I have heard of people finding it difficult yo fit a front sight with removable reticules.

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The front dioptre that comes with the "izzie" wraps round the barrel, and a screw goes into a predrilled hole in the barrel so luckily it only takes a minute or so to mount the foresight, (simples, phew.) M.
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Post by pmh » Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:45 pm

Are you fitting a foresight from another gun then?

I know the best reticules for Bell Target are the round "hole" type, with the hole just being slightly bigger than that of the target.

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Post by zunmik » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:06 pm

pmh:2029 wrote:Are you fitting a foresight from another gun then?

I know the best reticules for Bell Target are the round "hole" type, with the hole just being slightly bigger than that of the target.

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Thats exactly what i've got the "izzie" & the walther foresight dioptre's both have a range of elements so that you can choose the best one to suit the size, distance & your taste, just std as all dioptre's you just unscrew the cap use the size you require, i also have both metal & synthetic elements all are of course the round "hole" type i did'nt know there were other types other than the round hole ones, no point in having old style post elements in a dioptre!, atb, M.
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Post by zunmik » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:29 pm

zunmik:2030 wrote:
pmh:2029 wrote:Are you fitting a foresight from another gun then?

I know the best reticules for Bell Target are the round "hole" type, with the hole just being slightly bigger than that of the target.

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Thats exactly what i've got the "izzie" & the walther foresight dioptre's both have a range of elements so that you can choose the best one to suit the size, distance & your taste, just std as all dioptre's you just unscrew the cap use the size you require, i also have both metal & synthetic elements all are of course the round "hole" type i did'nt know there were other types other than the round hole ones, no point in having old style post elements in a dioptre!, atb, M.
Phil i forgot to say the "izzie" as std comes with a normal front dioptre that you can use any element you wish in it, but it does not fit onto std rails instead they use a cast metal design that goes round the barrel, and locates by means of a screw that locates into the barrel to ensure correct alignment, atb, M.
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Post by pmh » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:44 pm

That's interesting, the ones I have seen pictures of have a sight a bit like the BSAs/Webleys, i.e. a fixed blade with a tunnel shroud.

Some UBC members have been asking how to change these over.

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Post by zunmik » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:54 pm

pmh:2032 wrote:That's interesting, the ones I have seen pictures of have a sight a bit like the BSAs/Webleys, i.e. a fixed blade with a tunnel shroud.

Some UBC members have been asking how to change these over.

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I think thats the latest versions they also have a plastic receiver (yuk) mines all metal except for the stock in ideal world i would have had the even earlier version the (IZH60) the single shot one rather than the magazine 61 that i have, but their pretty rare, M.
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"izzie" foresight diopter

Post by zunmik » Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:17 pm

Phil as promised pics of foresight (not best main camera flat battery) as you see it goes over & round the barrel. To get to the screw that locates on the barrel you undo the end cap as if changing sight elements then it is exposed, M.   (4 pics)

https://picasaweb.google.com/mickson33/ ... 3639863602
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Post by pmh » Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:17 pm

Very helpful pics.

It's a pity they don't fit the same sight to the later versions.

Perhaps somebody has come up with a workable fix already.

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Post by zunmik » Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:29 pm

pmh:2055 wrote:Very helpful pics.

It's a pity they don't fit the same sight to the later versions.

Perhaps somebody has come up with a workable fix already.

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Just been looking @ the Solware website it still shows a picture of this rifle with the same foresight as mine, ??, M.
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Post by pmh » Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:55 pm

Interesting. Just checked that out for myself.

Here are the threads which sparked the initial debate:-

http://umarexboysclubforum.myfineforum. ... ht=diopter

http://umarexboysclubforum.myfineforum. ... ht=diopter

Not sure why this one has a different foresight, unless it is an earlier model?

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Post by zunmik » Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:20 pm

pmh:2060 wrote:Interesting. Just checked that out for myself.

Here are the threads which sparked the initial debate:-

http://umarexboysclubforum.myfineforum. ... ht=diopter

http://umarexboysclubforum.myfineforum. ... ht=diopter

Not sure why this one has a different foresight, unless it is an earlier model?

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I'm shocked dreadfull fore sight, but mostly the trigger 100% different mine is three way adjustable, release point, pull weight & has a target trigger can be moved up/down & left or right movement. Also there is so much plastic on the new ones, M.
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Post by zunmik » Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:15 pm

pmh:2060 wrote:Interesting. Just checked that out for myself.

Here are the threads which sparked the initial debate:-

http://umarexboysclubforum.myfineforum. ... ht=diopter

http://umarexboysclubforum.myfineforum. ... ht=diopter

Not sure why this one has a different foresight, unless it is an earlier model?

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Heres a review of my earlier version nowt like that plastic newbie, M.
http://my.tbaytel.net/coopers/BaikalIZHReview/
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Post by pmh » Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:19 pm

Plenty of shops are advertising your version,  including York Guns, where the one in question was bought from.

I suppose the rule is to check the front sight before purchase.

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