Benchrest Air Pistol - Some Thoughts and a Trial

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Post by Ian » Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:25 am

pmh:486 wrote: Of course, we should be using classic guns for this, so wool have to come up with a suitable definition.
Ah, now thats the tricky one!

I guess its down to defining this by some kind of arbitrary cut off date re year of manufacture and/or design parameters.

How about:

Must be a pellet firer

Must no longer be in production or if currently in production must have been so for minimum of 15 years

This would exclude the modern disposable plastic guns but allow something like a Benjamin EB which although still in production - has been so for decades virtually unchanged. Slightly more contentious would be some of Umarex models - for example I would regard the CP88 (air pistol version of a Walther P88 cartridge pistol) as a classic - others might not!




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Post by pmh » Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:03 pm

Yes,  I think it is going to be a tricky one.

I thought about age, but guns like the HW70 started in the 70s and are still made today.

One rule I would suggest is:-

All pistols must be pellet firing and single shot only.

This should take care of the mass produced clones.

I'll try and pull some suggested rules together for comment.

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Post by Ian » Sun Nov 25, 2012 2:50 pm

pmh:490 wrote:
All pistols must be pellet firing and single shot only.

This should take care of the mass produced clones.
Shh....dont let my Crosman 600 hear you  :lol:

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Post by pmh » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:14 pm

Yes, I should have added "modern" in that statement as there are, indeed, classic repeaters.

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Post by Ian » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:16 pm

pmh:492 wrote:Yes, I should have added "modern" in that statement as there are, indeed, classic repeaters.
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Post by pmh » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:46 pm

I had a quick go at putting some rules together today.

I tried to keep them as brief as possible, link is >here<

I think they are quite straight forward.

Any comments would be gratefully received.

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Post by Ian » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:51 pm

Looking good Phil - they are straightforward and I think there is merit in keeping things as simple as possible.

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Post by mitchell301 » Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:53 pm

I've got just one little query....
I'm intending to use my little Webley Junior for this comp, with an FT beanbag as a table-top rest. However, my hand extends below the base of the grip, and would therefore touch the rest. Am I permitted to extend the grip to be forward of the rest but with the muzzle still 6yds or more from the target. This would be with my shooting fore-arm only touching the rest.
ps.. do I get an extre half-point for using a non-rifled barrel :D
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Post by Ian » Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:58 pm

Do you mean that the rest is too low to allow clearance below the grip hand if the pistol is rested on the bag forward of the trigger guard?

If so, could you not raise the bag up a few inches?

Sorry - perhaps I am being a bit thick!

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Post by mitchell301 » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:14 pm

Its such a tiny pistol that it would be impractical to rest the forward part of it on a beanbag of this large size. If its mandatory for the pistol to touch the rest, then I'll use a smaller/firmer alternative type of rest. It would have to touch the rest forward of the trigger because the whole grip is smaller than my hand.
I chose the Junior as it is the only one I possess that is older than me (57), and thought it would be nice to use it in a competition. Sorry to be awkward.
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Post by Ian » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:18 pm

Ah, I see!

Perhaps the rules could make allowances for such an eventuality.

Come to think of it perhaps a two handed grip could be allowed in the case of physical problems?

What do you think Phil?

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Post by pmh » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:48 pm

Excellent feedback, and an interesting point.

Perhaps a revision could be:-

This can be anywhere between the muzzle and the front of the trigger guard, or the bottom of the grip. If the hand extends below the bottom on the grip, then the hand may contact the rest.

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Post by mitchell301 » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:59 pm

"If the hand extends below the bottom of the grip" (as it does mine), "then the hand may contact the rest". Many thanks guys, that will solve my problem completely. :)
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Post by pmh » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:03 pm

It sounds a fair solution, and still only makes one point of contact with the rest.

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Post by Ian » Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:17 am

Looks like we are nearly there then!

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