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Post by zunmik » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:29 pm

zunmik:2030 wrote:
pmh:2029 wrote:Are you fitting a foresight from another gun then?

I know the best reticules for Bell Target are the round "hole" type, with the hole just being slightly bigger than that of the target.

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Thats exactly what i've got the "izzie" & the walther foresight dioptre's both have a range of elements so that you can choose the best one to suit the size, distance & your taste, just std as all dioptre's you just unscrew the cap use the size you require, i also have both metal & synthetic elements all are of course the round "hole" type i did'nt know there were other types other than the round hole ones, no point in having old style post elements in a dioptre!, atb, M.
Phil i forgot to say the "izzie" as std comes with a normal front dioptre that you can use any element you wish in it, but it does not fit onto std rails instead they use a cast metal design that goes round the barrel, and locates by means of a screw that locates into the barrel to ensure correct alignment, atb, M.
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Post by pmh » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:44 pm

That's interesting, the ones I have seen pictures of have a sight a bit like the BSAs/Webleys, i.e. a fixed blade with a tunnel shroud.

Some UBC members have been asking how to change these over.

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Post by zunmik » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:54 pm

pmh:2032 wrote:That's interesting, the ones I have seen pictures of have a sight a bit like the BSAs/Webleys, i.e. a fixed blade with a tunnel shroud.

Some UBC members have been asking how to change these over.

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I think thats the latest versions they also have a plastic receiver (yuk) mines all metal except for the stock in ideal world i would have had the even earlier version the (IZH60) the single shot one rather than the magazine 61 that i have, but their pretty rare, M.
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"izzie" foresight diopter

Post by zunmik » Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:17 pm

Phil as promised pics of foresight (not best main camera flat battery) as you see it goes over & round the barrel. To get to the screw that locates on the barrel you undo the end cap as if changing sight elements then it is exposed, M.   (4 pics)

https://picasaweb.google.com/mickson33/ ... 3639863602
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Post by pmh » Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:17 pm

Very helpful pics.

It's a pity they don't fit the same sight to the later versions.

Perhaps somebody has come up with a workable fix already.

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Post by zunmik » Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:29 pm

pmh:2055 wrote:Very helpful pics.

It's a pity they don't fit the same sight to the later versions.

Perhaps somebody has come up with a workable fix already.

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Just been looking @ the Solware website it still shows a picture of this rifle with the same foresight as mine, ??, M.
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Post by pmh » Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:55 pm

Interesting. Just checked that out for myself.

Here are the threads which sparked the initial debate:-

http://umarexboysclubforum.myfineforum. ... ht=diopter

http://umarexboysclubforum.myfineforum. ... ht=diopter

Not sure why this one has a different foresight, unless it is an earlier model?

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Post by zunmik » Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:20 pm

pmh:2060 wrote:Interesting. Just checked that out for myself.

Here are the threads which sparked the initial debate:-

http://umarexboysclubforum.myfineforum. ... ht=diopter

http://umarexboysclubforum.myfineforum. ... ht=diopter

Not sure why this one has a different foresight, unless it is an earlier model?

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I'm shocked dreadfull fore sight, but mostly the trigger 100% different mine is three way adjustable, release point, pull weight & has a target trigger can be moved up/down & left or right movement. Also there is so much plastic on the new ones, M.
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Post by zunmik » Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:15 pm

pmh:2060 wrote:Interesting. Just checked that out for myself.

Here are the threads which sparked the initial debate:-

http://umarexboysclubforum.myfineforum. ... ht=diopter

http://umarexboysclubforum.myfineforum. ... ht=diopter

Not sure why this one has a different foresight, unless it is an earlier model?

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Phil
Heres a review of my earlier version nowt like that plastic newbie, M.
http://my.tbaytel.net/coopers/BaikalIZHReview/
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Post by pmh » Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:19 pm

Plenty of shops are advertising your version,  including York Guns, where the one in question was bought from.

I suppose the rule is to check the front sight before purchase.

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Post by pmh » Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:51 pm

Just checked the Baikal website, >link<, and it looks like the none reticule foresight is the current one.

Seems a bit of a backward step reaaly, and probably a cost saving exercise.

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Post by zunmik » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:09 pm

pmh:2071 wrote:Just checked the Baikal website, >link<, and it looks like the none reticule foresight is the current one.

Seems a bit of a backward step reaaly, and probably a cost saving exercise.

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Hell of a shame the original version is such a great rifle, better than me with it, M. :?
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Post by zunmik » Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:01 pm

pmh:2071 wrote:Just checked the Baikal website, >link<, and it looks like the none reticule foresight is the current one.

Seems a bit of a backward step reaaly, and probably a cost saving exercise.

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Phil
I spent some time this weekend researching the "izzie", and one website (being a numpty i can't remember which one :roll: ) showed that on the new type rifle the front part of the "new" type sight can be removed & replaced with others, 2 posts sights, and 3 ring diopter type sights!. the sight has a large ring which fits over the barrel then it continues
up to the ring or post sight. the picture showed that the end of the barrel was threaded so that the front part can be removed to replace these unusual, but effective looking foresight elements. possibly a cap @ the end unscrews to allow this, could'nt tell from the drawing not detailed enough. M.  :?  :)
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Post by pmh » Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:22 pm

You'll have to remember the site, it sounds quite interesting.

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Post by zunmik » Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:41 pm

pmh:2093 wrote:You'll have to remember the site, it sounds quite interesting.

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here we go i hope the link works, M.
http://airgun-academy.pyramydair.com/bl ... le-part-1/
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