A Webley MkIII and Original 50

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A Webley MkIII and Original 50

Post by ChrisH00 » Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:37 pm

I've had the Original 50 since new, the Webley I bought s/h maybe 15 years ago.

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Post by pmh » Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:38 pm

Classic lines on both rifles.

Is the Original 50 classed as a Stutzen?

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Post by ChrisH00 » Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:41 pm

pmh:58 wrote:Classic lines on both rifles.

Is the Original 50 classed as a Stutzen?

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Phil
I suppose it might be because of the long forestock, but it doesn't reach the end of the barrel and I'm not sure what the definition requires. A pig to dismantle (unlike the Webley which is simple).

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O-50

Post by zunmik » Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:42 pm

Love the 50, is it the early one or the later high powered version, M.
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Post by pmh » Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:45 pm

I used to be a bit snobbish over tap loaders, in my youth, as I always watned a break barrel.

They do, of course, have the potential to be more consistent, having a fixed barrel.

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Re: O-50

Post by ChrisH00 » Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:52 pm

zunmik:60 wrote:Love the 50, is it the early one or the later high powered version, M.
Good question, I don't really know. I do know when I went into the gunshop the gunsmith tried to sell me a HW35E instead, demonstrating it was more powerful by firing them both into a piece of wood :)  However, I was taken by the looks of the Original 50. One of life's choices...

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Post by pmh » Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:54 pm

The HW35 is another classic.

Very 70s in styling, but a worthy rifle.

I had my first go, in the mid 1980s, when a chap at Rochdale Air Weapons club had one.

The first break barrel rifle I had seen with a barrel release catch.

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Post by zooma » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:44 pm

I put an Original dioptre on my .177 Model 50 ( same as used on Model 66 etc) so I can use it as a bell target rifle.

I also have a mint Mk 3 Supertarget complete in it's original cardboard box!

Once I find out what it is worth I will be selling it - but my Model 50 stays!
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Re: A Webley MkIII and Original 50

Post by johnbaz » Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:17 am

Hi

I think to be classed as a Stutzen, the stock has to go all the way to the muzzle of the barrel, the same as these two..

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Coincidentally, The Original mod50 and the Webbo mk3 are amomng my favourite rifles :clap:

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This one is ready for rebuilding now, I just have to pluck up the courage now to tackle it!! :oops: :lol:

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Cheers, John 8-)
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Re: A Webley MkIII and Original 50

Post by zooma » Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:45 am

I have two .177 Model 50 air rifles - one is a Diana Model 50 and has the older slimmer stock and the newer one is an Original Model 50 and has the thicker more chunky stock with the square shaped trigger guard and darker wood.

Both have the Diana diopter for target use and it is interesting to compare them with my Webley Mk3 Super-Target. Although I prefer the Model 50's I have to admit that the Mk3 is very well made and actually shoots better and with more power too!
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Re: A Webley MkIII and Original 50

Post by MDriskill » Sat Jun 28, 2014 1:18 pm

The more powerful model "50 T01" was made for a brief period in the early 1980's, I believe. Unlike earlier 50's which shared many parts with the model 35 barrel-cocker, the 50 T01 was based on the action of the first-version model 45, including its completely revised trigger and large sliding safety catch. The 50 T01 can be identified by a bolt passing through the stock above the trigger (just as the 45), and by a much longer cocking arm which extends past the stock fore end almost to the barrel muzzle.

The model 50 is a great favorite of mine, and in my opinion rather underrated by collectors, especially here in the US. I am very fortunate to own these three early target-shooting variants from the late 50's or early 60's:

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I've always particularly admired the stocks of this rifle, which have truly beautiful lines. Dennis Hiller's "Collector's Guide to Air Rifles" puckishly describes the model 50's styling as having "sexual overtones," and it's hard to argue!

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Re: A Webley MkIII and Original 50

Post by johnbaz » Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:55 pm

MDriskill wrote:The more powerful model "50 T01" was made for a brief period in the early 1980's, I believe. Unlike earlier 50's which shared many parts with the model 35 barrel-cocker, the 50 T01 was based on the action of the first-version model 45, including its completely revised trigger and large sliding safety catch. The 50 T01 can be identified by a bolt passing through the stock above the trigger (just as the 45), and by a much longer cocking arm which extends past the stock fore end almost to the barrel muzzle.

The model 50 is a great favorite of mine, and in my opinion rather underrated by collectors, especially here in the US. I am very fortunate to own these three early target-shooting variants from the late 50's or early 60's:

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I've always particularly admired the stocks of this rifle, which have truly beautiful lines. Dennis Hiller's "Collector's Guide to Air Rifles" puckishly describes the model 50's styling as having "sexual overtones," and it's hard to argue!

:D
Spot on M

I had one but a mate talked it off me :evil:

He then sold it to another lad at work, I was then offered it back for three times what I sold it for!!

It's the one at farthest right ;)

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Re: A Webley MkIII and Original 50

Post by aimless » Fri Sep 02, 2016 1:37 pm

I like the match version of the 50 with the "rotating star wheel " on the frontsight. So you can choose four different front-sight versions within a second .

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picture of the rifle:

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front sight:

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atb Jochen

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Re: A Webley MkIII and Original 50

Post by johnbaz » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:26 am

aimless wrote:I like the match version of the 50 with the "rotating star wheel " on the frontsight. So you can choose four different front-sight versions within a second .

pictures can be enlarged twice

picture of the rifle:

http://sta.sh/0r5fr4tha91" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

front sight:

http://sta.sh/0w0eshziimp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

atb Jochen

That's a beauty Jochen, But then all your rifles are!! :clap:


John :P

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